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By: John Kaster
Abstract: See the chat room log and listen to the replay of this live chat with Ravi
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This is a log of the chat room during the live audio chat from December 9, 2004 on
JBuilder 2005 with Ravi Kumar, a Borland R&D Engineer. Ravi
discusses his work on web services in JBuilder 2005 during this chat.
Note: This log is only the chat room
transcript. There is much additional information covered in the audio
replay that is not available in this chat log. For all previous and
upcoming live chats, see https://bdntv.borland.com/chat.html.
aohlsson: doychin: "Will there be session
for gui designer?" - Yes. Of course. Thanks for reminding
us about that one.
aohlsson: You guys really need to check EventCentral and
subscribe to the BDN RSS feeds. We can't guarantee personal reminders
aohlsson: doychin: "anything interesting
from Cupertino meeting?" - I'll blog about Cupertino
later today (I hope).
aohlsson inserts the following link: https://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/all
aohlsson: (Link to all JSRs)
jkaster inserts the following link: https://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.html#ws
jkaster: Web Services projects from apache.org
aohlsson inserts the following link: https://www.service-architecture.com/
jkaster: wdb11: "What's the current level of web
services support in JBuilder 2005, and what's planned for
2006?" - Right now we have all JSRs currently out there,
and toolkits like the Axis and weblogic toolkit.
jkaster: we'll probably be the first to have J2EE 1.4
support as well
jkaster: doychin: "how is this J2ee 1.4 be
delivered? As update or new release? WIth this new release cycle this
means somtime in Q3 of next year" - It certainly could be
an update for JBuilder 2005. I just finished fixing my last bug on it,
but I can't talk about dates.
aohlsson: doychin: "Session about JBoss
support ;-)" - Yes. This is actually planned. I believe
that we'll have Shelby Sanders discussing this.
aohlsson: (sometime in January after holidays and
jkaster: jkaster: "Where's the next big
direction for web services? What major functional areas need additional
support?" - WebServices are evolving toward being an
operating system, with things you typically expect from an OS
jkaster: jkaster: "Have you participated
in any JSRs? Which ones do you particularly care about?" -
I certainly liked 101, which became JaxRPC. Right now I'm interested
in the business integration of it, and I'm participating in 208, and a
colleague is in 109.
aohlsson inserts the following link: https://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=101
aohlsson inserts the following link: https://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=208
aohlsson inserts the following link: https://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=109
jkaster: doychin: "Isn't using of
Webservices problem for application peformance?" - It
jkaster: doychin: "Can web services be
used for applications that process a lot of requests at the same
time?" - That is a very interesting question. I think
that's one area that needs to evolve a little bit more. right
now we're driven by the implementation support of available
jkaster: doychin: "Is it good to use web
services for interfaces with complex parameters whch as result produce
huge http requests?" - I think the answer is, yes it is,
but I think you'd want to use document literal for it.
jkaster: jkaster: "How did the data type
richness of XML schema change your thoughts or approach for supporting
data manipulation and persistence?" - I always look at that
as the battle between O/R databases and relational databases. There's
decisions that have to be made about XML databases or scalar type
jkaster: landis: "Where can we find more
information about JBuilder's WS capabilities?" - I would
point to the JBuilder documentation. I think the WS docs are some of
the finest documentation examples in JBuilder. Tutorials, examples,
different scenarios. Check my blog because now I'm motivated. Some
articles are also on CodeCentral.
jkaster inserts the following link: https://blogs.borland.com
jkaster: check that area for Ravi's blog
jkaster: doychin: "Do you think that there
is need to market more actively web services as somthing not mady by
Microsoft becouse most people that use MS tools think that this is MS
technology" - I find this view surprising because of the
huge number of Java implementations for web services
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wdb11: any plans for chat sessions about other products :$ ?
(i.e. starteam etc.)
doychin: thanks for the chat
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